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Welcome to the Trade Secrets, powered by Metabo HPT Podcast. This show is all about real-world lessons, smart strategies, and proven hacks used by successful tradespeople who’ve been in the trenches. If you're just starting your own trades business—or thinking about it—this podcast is another tool for your toolbox. Only this one doesn’t go in the truck...it goes in your head.

Episode 12: An AI Skill Every Trades Owner Should Learn...Now

Guest: Zac Engler (Chief AI Officer at C4 Tech Services)

AI can feel overwhelming - too many tools, not enough clarity. In this episode, Zac Engler cuts through the noise and shows why prompting is the foundational skill that unlocks real results for trades businesses. He walks through a simple framework you can use today to estimate jobs, build bids, schedule crews, summarize specs, and more.

Episode 12: An AI Skill Every Trades Owner Should Learn...Now

Guest: Zac Engler (Chief AI Officer at C4 Tech Services)

AI can feel overwhelming - too many tools, not enough clarity. In this episode, Zac Engler cuts through the noise and shows why prompting is the foundational skill that unlocks real results for trades businesses. He walks through a simple framework you can use today to estimate jobs, build bids, schedule crews, summarize specs, and more.

You'll learn:

  • What “prompting” actually is—and why it beats copying random prompts off the internet
  • A four-word framework (Role → Task → Context → Goal) to get accurate, usable outputs
  • Common prompting mistakes to avoid 
  • Practical trades use cases: bids, schedules, spec summaries, multilingual comms

Episode links:

Metabo HPT

Zac’s Website

C4 Tech Services Website